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CDR 765 Notes

November 6, 1998

Was looking through the ad from Fry's Electronics in the paper this morning, and what should I see but an ad for the Philips CDR 765 dual deck CD player/recorder! I've been looking at and thinking about this unit for a couple weeks now, but was under the impression that none had yet escaped captivity...

So I was in the Fry's parking lot at 7:45 this morning, waiting for them to open... went straight to the audio department and managed to score the last one they had in stock. I did two things I don't normally do when purchasing audio equipment: I took the "display model" on the shelf, which I did 'cause it was the only one they had left, and I got the "extra service" contract 'cause I tend to be suspicious of new technology like this...

Real quickly, the CDR 765 is a dual CD deck - one player, one recorder, that lets you "clone" CDs. It also has analog and digital inputs, which means you can write CDs from an external sound source. One of my main uses for this critter is going to be as a "mixdown deck" in my home recording studio. One thing that I knew about it, right out of the gate, is that it requires the "audio only" CDs, which are $5.99 a pop rather than the $1.99 you can get a standard CD for...

Anyway, since this is a brand new item that is probably of interest to a lot of people doing home recording, I thought I'd keep a diary of what happens... I picked up five write-once CDs and one re-writeable CD ($29.95 - ouch!) to play with.

I'll try to keep track of what it does and doesn't do, problems, cool stuff, etc. etc. etc. If you have questions about it, feel free to email me and I'll see what I can find out. I don't have the manual yet, but I just got a call from the sales guy at Fry's, that they found it, so I should have it by this evening...

...but, of course, I had to run out at my lunch hour and pick it up. So, from a first readthrough of the manual, here is the kewl and unkewl stuff I found out:

kewl stuff the CDR 765 does...

unkewl stuff the CDR 765 does...

The "unkewl" list is longer 'cause those are the things that may be significant to some people, but I still think it's all outweighed by the coolness (see, I do know how to spell) of being able to write CDs at home...

Saturday, November 7, 1998

Tried a real basic, double speed dub of a complete CD (a "one-off" one that I had done for me a year or so ago) and it seemed to work fine. Plays in my 1990-vintage Denon CD player; played a few tracks at the start, a couple in the middle, and a few at the end, with no problems. Copying onto a TDK CD-R (non-rewriteable).

Two minor weirdnesses: (1) the "record" tray is on the left and the "playback" tray is on the right. This is gonna take a little getting used to; (2) makes a weird little sound between tracks when dubbing. Assume this is normal...

As advertised in the manual, it did insert a little space between tracks (when the copy was finished, the unit indicated total time for the master was 58:32 and total time for the copy was 58:44, so it added 12 seconds over 22 cuts; not too bad. It would probably be audible and annoying on a "live" CD, though. My Denon indicated 58:46 for the total time...

Aw, Crud

Hey, what was that I was saying about new technology?

I was doing some analog dubs a little earlier, to try out that part of the machine. I had dubbed about four songs, and listened back to them; then I went to add a fifth song to the CD, and in the middle of the song, the machine just shut down. No lights, sound, anything. Can't even get my CD out of the machine...

So... back to Fry's tomorrow, I guess.

On the brighter side, there is one really cool thing that the machine does when recording from analog: each time you hit pause, while you're finding the next song to track, it puts an index mark right there. Meaning that I don't have to worry about getting the recorder going, starting the cassette deck, and adding an index mark all at once.

Nonetheless, the coolness of that design feature is somewhat overshadowed at this point by the inability of the machine to do anything at all...

Sunday, November 8, 1998

Ran over to Fry's and talked to the customer service folks, and they just said, "do you want a replacement or a refund?" Replacement, definitely :-) So now I have a new CDR765 to try out... the serial number is about 7 off from the original one, so this is from the same batch... but at least it powers up. Fry's even replaced the blank CD that got "eaten" by the machine. So one point for Fry's customer service department...

One thing I'm glad of: I'm glad I wasn't copying one of my original CDs in the machine when this happened... I would hate to have them sending it off to Philips service dept. with the master copy of one of my own CDs sitting in the "play" deck side.

Ah, well, we have a replacement unit, so I'll test that out. Will put up an update sometime Monday, probably. Hopefully, good news...

Monday, November 9, 1998

The replacement deck seems to be working out - I was able to master about an hour's worth of songs mixed down from my 8-track home studio setup, and the resulting CD plays on the CD drive on my computer at work.

One thing that's going to take a little getting used to - mixing down to a non-erasable medium. Out of 16 songs, I only had one song that I had to re-mix, and that was because one of the cables had come loose. However, these were just headphone pre-mixes, so I wasn't being real critical on mix quality. (The "loose cable" thing: I started recording and noticed that only the right channel VU was going; it appears to be due to a loose cable, but I'm noting it here just in case it happens again...)

Comment on analog mixdowns: the unit provides VU meters, but does not give any indication of "margin" the way a DAT deck does. Philips suggests mixing so that the levels reach the top of the blue indicators but don't go into the red; I was mixing so that the levels went into the red a little bit now and then. My suspicion is that this is still a margin of maybe 6 db - I'm going to borrow a friend's DAT deck and use it to see if I can figure out what sort of margins I'm actually getting on analog dubs. What this means in real, practical terms: if your digital margin is any more than zero, then your mixdown CD isn't going to sound as "loud" as commercially produced CDs. More info on this once I get some numbers. I also want to try going "over margin" on an analog recording, just to see what happens. I can do that on DAT mixdowns, and as long as it's only an occasional "over," it's not even audible.

Thanks to those who have sent email... as noted in the FAQ below, I have my reasons for not going the computer CD-writer route. And I know there are lots of other CD writers out there, but the CDR765 is what I bought, and what I'm reporting on. Any questions people send, I'll try to figure out and add to the FAQ section.

One other nice thing I'll say about the unit: on the analog mixdowns I did over the weekend, I can't hear any "clicks" between tracks where I paused or stopped the unit while setting up the next song. I am, admittedly, listening at a fairly low volume today, due to some weirdness on my computer; nonetheless, on the DAT mixdowns I've done in the past and had transferred to CD, clicks between tracks have been a rather annoying constant... so score another point for the CDR 765.

Friday, November 13, 1998

No, I haven't forgotten about this webpage, I just didn't have time to use the CDR765 during the week. But I've got some projects planned for the weekend, so stay tuned...

Wednesday, November 18, 1998

Still working! Haven't done anything new and adventurous since last time; haven't had any new problems. On the 2x copy I did last night, there's a little skritch on the very last song that I don't _think_ is on the master - it's not a skip or a dropout or anything, just a little bit of distortion on one of the loud drumbeats. But it could well be there on the master, and I just never noticed it before. Everything else seems to play fine.

Been talking to my brother in the Bay Area; I'm gonna bring along the CDR and some of my old, old 4-track masters when we go up there for the holidays (he's got my old 4-track deck, and I've got a few songs that I can't even find cassette mixes of, that I want to dub to CD for posterity).

Wednesday, November 18, 1998

Well, here's something that's just so stupid I wouldn't even have imagined it: I went to Fry's a couple days ago and grabbed six CD blanks off the shelf... got looking at them this evening and two of them had stickers on them that indicated they were "returned product" but assured the purchaser that Fry's covered the manufacturer's warranty, blah, blah, blah.

Well, guess what? I stuck these two "blank" CDs in the drive and both of 'em had stuff written on them! 'Nother trip to Fry's in the a.m.

But... why, why, why would a store re-sell returned media like this? Particularly "write once" CD-ROM blanks, which can't be re-used once they've had anything written on them????

Let the buyer beware...

On the positive side, one thing I'm verifying as I write this: you don't have to copy a full CD, or CD tracks in any particular order, even in 2x dub mode. I wanted to make a copy of the P.P. Bliss premix CD I made a few days ago, but track 14 on that one was a bad mix - I needed to substitute track 17. So I set up a "program" (you _do_ have to have the remote control to set up a track program - the unit itself doesn't have number keys on the front panel) and then, once the program was set, went into dub mode. And it appears that it's going to do what I want... if not, you'll be hearing from me in the morning...

Friday, November 20, 1998

Found some CDR Audio blanks at Tower Records today, but... $8.99 a pop. Ouch! For $8.99 apiece, I expect them to come with some Billy Joel music on them that I can record over. (Sorry, I'm not a B.J. fan...)

Unfortunately, I needed 'em, 'cause I'm going to take the deck up to the Bay Area with me when we go for Thanksgiving, and my brother (who has my old 4-track r-t-r deck) and I are going to sit around "rescuing" songs off some of my old 4-track masters, and I don't want to have to stop 'cause we ran out of blank CDs.

In a pinch, though... Tower Records does carry them... but you will be pinched...

Tuesday, December 1, 1998

Okay... took the CDR765 up to the Bay Area, did an all nighter the night before Thanksgiving with no problems. Mixing analog stuff to CD; put four songs on the CDRW, but haven't done any more with those yet.

Fry's is all out of "audio" blanks, and I just called Terrapin Tapes, and they are as well. Apparently the CDR765 and its cousins have taken the blank media world by storm! Guess there are more of us out there willing to pay $6 a pop to make CDs...

When I was talking to Terrapin, they said that they've been told that Kodak is supposed to be coming out with audio-type CDR blanks, and that the price may even be less than $6 apiece! Still in the rumor stage, but there may be more news (and maybe even product) in a week or so. So keep yer eyes open.

In the meantime, the biggest problem with the CDR765 seems to be that nobody has blank "audio" CDs for sale! But the unit itself seems to be working, still...

By the way - if anyone has tried the "swap trick" using the CDR 765 and either verified that it does or does not work, could you let me know? I've receieved several questions on this, and, while I'm too wimpy to try it myself (see FAQ item 2), I'd like to be able to give a better answer than "I don't know..."

Friday, December 4, 1998

Still no problems, although I got email from another CDR765 owner today, who is on his second deck and it's started acting flaky in 2x dub mode - the play deck skips around from place to place on the CD... I haven't seen this, but we'll note it for the record...

Finished up a couple of CDs from the big Thanksgiving session, with no problems. I "finalized" the CDRW cd - it will play in the CDROM drive on our Windows 95 system at home, but it will NOT play in my brand new Aiwa audio CD player... my plan is to dub it over to a regular CD blank as soon as I can get my hands on some, but 'tis worth noting that the CDRW (rewriteable) cdroms apparently won't play in some/all regular "audio" cd players. It is important that it works in the computer, though, because future plans for the CDRW include using it to encode new song demos in RA for website posting...

Did verify that one can erase individual tracks on the CDRW, and also that pressing ">>" while recording will add an index mark on the CD, meaning you can put index marks on a "live" CD without pausing it between tracks...

Saturday, December 5, 1998

Stopped by Fry's and they've stocked up on blank CDs, so I picked up ten more and I'm back in business :-) They seriously stocked up on blank CDs!

Monday, December 7, 1998

Copied the tracks from the CDRW onto a CDR blank (at 2x speed), no problems. Also took a DAT mixdown tape and copied digitally (via coax) onto CDR. No problems with the CDRW disc in the play side of the 765, even at double speed. Once I've listened to that copy and verified that it plays, I'll start experimenting with erasing and re-using the CDRW...

Discovery on VU meter levels on the CDR - this DAT tape was mixed so that the margins on most of the songs were 0 (and a couple of the songs actually had a couple "overs" while recording, which, in my experience, are not audible problems), and my best guess at correlating the CDR 765 vu meters is: when one "red" led segment flashes on the CDR 765 vu, you're probably in the range of 0 db margin. When two or more red led segments flash on the CDR 765 vu's, you're probably "over margin."

For those who aren't familiar with the terminology: 0 vu is the "loudest" signal that can be recorded on a CD; 0 vu means, basically, "all bits on." So any time you go "over margin" it means there's lost data, and, potentially, audible distortion. Some people are very religious about never going over margin (or anywhere near it); I'm not so picky. But what this suggests is that if you mix analog input so that you get an occasional flash of the first red segment, you should be getting a reasonably "loud" CD.

Wednesday, December 9, 1998

Just a quick note - verified that my CDRW disk, even though it has been finalized, won't play in my old (1988 or so) Denon CD player. So, although the Philips manual suggests otherwise, I would not advise assuming that you'll be able to play rewriteable disks in a standard CD player... might be important if somebody's thinking of buying the single-well recorder from Philips, mixing to CDRW and then dubbing to CDR when finished. CDRW will, as already noted, play in the "play" well of the 765.

Friday, December 11, 1998

It has now been confirmed (by one of my email correspondents) that the CDR 765 will NOT allow the "swap trick" to work. The CDR 765 checks for the "audio code" on the blank CD any time a new blank is inserted, even if the drawer is "pried open" and the non-audio CD inserted that way. Prior models (the 870, for example), only checked when the "door open" button was pressed, but the 765 checks any time the blank changes.

Monday, December 14, 1998

Did a couple more analog mixes over the weekend; no problems. Did a little experiment with the SCMS copy protection scheme this morning and was disappointed to learn that second-gen copies are NOT copyable on this machine - see the FAQ below for details. Basically, it means I can't mix down to CDRW (which would give me the ability to re-mix tracks that don't come out right), and then create a CDR "master" of the finished mix and use that CDR for further digital copies.

While I understand (well, sorta), the thought behind all this copy protection stuff, I find the fact that this deck uses BOTH "consumer audio" blanks and SCMS copy protection to be really cheesy. As I think I wrote before... if I'm paying $4 a pop extra for the "consumer" blanks, and then on top of that, the machine invokes a copy protection scheme that really screws up what I'm trying to do with my OWN music... that's overkill, folks...

Friday, January 1, 1999

An update: Check here for the Kodak Audio CDR blanks, $3.50 or less per blank! I haven't tried any of these yet (will be ordering some, I'm sure), and I did notice when I followed the "Info" link and checked Kodak's FAQ on these that they specifically mention: "All currently available home audio CD recorders record in real time (that is, at 1X in Mode 1). Audio CD-Rs from Kodak are designed for excellent 1X recording. This speed makes them perfect for live recording of your own performances and provides the quality that matches current technologies." I'm not sure what that means about using these to copy on the 765's 2x dubbing speed, but the 765 can be set to do 1x digital dubbing, so it's not the end of the world...

Monday, January 4, 1999

Got email from Nick Verban, who says, "The guy at Cassette House informed that the Kodaks will worrk at 2x speed, but that remains to be seen..."

So I called up Cassette House and ordered the 30-pack of Kodak CD-R blanks - came to about $96.50 with shipping and whatever... half the price I'm paying right now :-) Who knows, maybe I'll even get around to putting some of those old Spanky and Our Gang albums on CD one of these days :-).

Tuesday, January 5, 1999

Email from Jbeau Lewis today, another 765 owner, who said that he saw (and has ordered) the Kodak "audio" blanks from American Digital - he ordered 50 and got them for $2.89 apiece. The prices are a-comin' down on these things!

Thursday, January 14, 1999

My box of Kodak CD-R's arrived a couple days ago. Had a chance to try one out last night / this morning. Seemed to work okay - recognized as an "audio" disk and the resulting recording plays on my porta CD player at work...

Following email a couple days ago from Christopher Simmons: "FYI -- Watch out for the Memorex 5-packs of rewritable CDRW that come with 5-free regular CDR discs (sell for about $30 at Best Buy and others). While the cardboard holder says "digital audio" in the little Compact Disc logo, the actual discs in the bundle are NOT audio ready for our Philips machines and the actual discs and disc case cards don't have the "digital audio" on them, even though the external cardboard wrap does. All of the ten-packs at my local Best Buy were labeled the same way, without having the right discs inside."

Tuesday, January 19, 1999

Christopher Simmons also reports that the CDRW-A discs seem to be the tough item to find these days. If anyone comes across a web-order source for them, drop me an email and I'll add a note here...

Wednesday, March 10, 1999

As you've noticed, I haven't been updating this page too regularly. The 765 is still working, with no surprises (except for one minor weirdness, described in the log section below). I've used up all but one of the 30 Kodak CD blanks I ordered in January.

Maxell is now selling "audio" CD blanks as well - I see that Cassette House has them on sale for $2.75 apiece. Except that they're sold out at the moment, but more on order. Kodak's are still available for under $3 apiece if you buy 30, or if you go to Terrapin Tapes. I've heard a few stories of people having problems with the regular (non-audio) Maxell CD blanks, but don't have any experience of this myself (did a few copies onto Maxell non-audio blanks back when my only source for CD copying was to sneak into the software library at work and use the copier there, and didn't experience any problems myself)...

Anyway... the machine is still working, I'm using it regularly to do headphone mixdowns from 8-track masters in my home studio, and it seems to be working well...

Somebody emailed me the other day and asked if one could "fix" the audio-CD and SCMS requirements of the 765 by just pulling a chip or two out of the machine... I haven't heard anything like this; it would certainly void the warranty, and I'd be surprised if these functions were on a single chip that could be popped out, but... if anybody knows anything...

Tuesday, March 23, 1999

Anybody who's looking for audio CDRW discs, Crutchfield has the Philips ones for $9.99; 1-800-955-3000. Cassette House has another brand for $12.95. Thanks to Richard Benowitz for making all the phone calls to find the best price at Crutchfield!

I've also been exchanging email with Richard (and a couple other people) about using CDRW's to "master" a CD, then copying the result to a CDR which you'd use as your master for making further copies. The problem with this is that the CDR would have SCMS protection turned on, so you wouldn't be able to make digital copies. One solution to this might be: if you know somebody who can copy CDs on a _computer_, the computer software doesn't know about SCMS, so you should be able to make a bit-for-bit copy of the CDRW onto CDR, and the CDR should still be digitally copy-able. (Some computer software may even have the ability to turn off the SCMS bits altogether, but at least it should let you make a copy-able copy of your CDRW once you've got good mixdowns of all your tunes).

The other issue that came up was - as you're collecting mixdowns on CDRW, it would be nice to be able to take that CDRW around and listen to it in your car, on a friend's stereo, etc. Unfortunately, most audio CD players - home and car - won't play the CDRW's. The whole technology for writing them is a bit different, so a typical audio CD player isn't going to be able to play them... didn't come up with a good solution for this yet... if you copy the mixes to CDR so that you can listen to them, you have to finalize the CDR, and that wipes out being able to write any more songs to the CDR... and you wind up blowing eight or ten CDR blanks just checking your mixes... anybody got any brilliant ideas????

On the subject of CDRW... has anybody else noticed that the instructions in the manual for un-finalizing a CDRW don't seem like they match up with reality? Even the indicator lights - this morning, my CDRW was showing the "CD" and "REWRITEABLE" lights, but not the "RECORDABLE" light - yet it allowed me to add a fourth song to the three mixes already on it...

I called up Cassette House and ordered another 30-pack of the Kodak blanks. For entirely superstitious reasons, I've been doing mixdowns mainly on TDKs and using Kodaks for "home copies" or dubs of old albums... I think my theory is that if the TDKs or the Kodaks prove to have a shorter-than-hoped-for halflife, I'll at least have a set of copies on the other media... my main purpose, really, for buying the CDR765 was to make copies of my own songs that I'll be able to listen to twenty years from now... and while there are lots of theories, nobody knows for sure when these sorts of media start to disintegrate...

Wednesday, March 24, 1999

Email from John Wood (thanks!) saying that Best Buy currently has three-packs of Memorex CD-RW (audio use) for $19.99.

And more email from "Ken," who works at Tower Records, and wanted to let me know that Tower now has audio CDRs for as low as $4.99 each. Which is cool, 'cause when you just hafta have a blank CDR _right now_ at 11 pm, Tower is the place :-)

Un-finalizing my CD-RW this morning seemed like it was working "as advertised," so I guess it just hadn't been finalized when I started out yesterday...

Friday, March 26, 1999

Got email from Proactive Electronics letting me know that they have Kodak blank CDs - the 30-pack for $73 delivered. The prices continue to move in the right direction :-)

Tuesday, April 27, 1999

Per recent discussion in rec.audio.pro, there are rumored to be some regular "audio" CD players which will play CD-RW discs. One brand which was mentioned in particular was Panasonic - according to the poster, "most current model panasonic CD players, even value models, will play CD-RW." May be useful information for somebody...

I did an experiment the other day, one I've been thinking of doing for a while - took one of my SCMS protected CD copies and made a copy of it. I just set it up like a regular high speed dub; the 765 figured out that the tracks were SCMS protected, so shifted into "analog" mode to copy them (which means they were copied at 1x speed).

Subjective evaluation: I think there was a very tiny audible difference between the original and the copy; maybe just a little bit of loss in the high end. I didn't test this with any analyzers or anything, this is just very subjective, and I did know which one I was listening to at any given time, so it could all be in my mind, too. Just seemed like the copy had a teensy bit less punch than the original...

By the way, when the deck shifted into "analog copying" mode during this dub, the VU meter didn't indicate any action at all. But the disk did copy.

Tuesday, May 11, 1999

The deck is still running fine; just haven't had anything to write about in a while...

I got some email from Art Munson at Cassette House this morning. It said that they have "generic 80 minute digital audio 'consumer' recordable CDs." 10-pack for $23.90, even cheaper if you buy five packs. With jewel case. So... if anybody's been looking for the 80-minute 'audio' CD blanks, they now exist. Cassette house also has generic blanks, sans case, 100 pack for $225.

July 31, 1999

Been using the 765 to copy some selections from my old LPs over to CD; the unit continues to work :-) Coming up on the end of the manufacturer's one-year-warranty, so I've decided to give the machine a good workout, just in case it's waiting to break down...

Latest email from Art Munson at Cassette House says that they have "generic" audio blanks, 100 blanks on a spindle (i.e., no jewel case) for $139. Somebody must have made some sort of negotiations with the RIAA, because at $1.39 a pop, there can't be a whole lot of "royalty" money going to them... anyway, for those who are doing a LOT of CD writing/copying, there you go...

Frequently Asked Questions

Why didn't you just buy a CD writer for your computer?
Because my computer is undersized and underpowered, meaning I'd probably have to replace the whole computer to create CDs on it. I'm sure I could have accomplished the same results - maybe better, as well as cheaper - with a computer setup, but I'm interested in putting music on CDs, not fighting with the computer.

Can it be fooled into using standard writeable CD media? 12/11/1998: email from Tom Grizzard (thanks, Tom!), who has verified that the swap trick does NOT work on the 765 - he tried it himself and spoke with others who have). The 765 checks for the "audio code" on the CD any time a new blank is inserted, not just when the "open door" button is used to change blanks.

What is this "audio CD" thing? And why are the CDs more expensive?
Thank the RIAA for this one. The only difference between a regular CD blank and an "audio CD" blank is that an audio CD has a code on it that says, "this guy paid four bucks extra for an 'audio' CD." The plan, I think, is that the extra money goes to the musicians who are being ripped off by people making digital copies of their CDs using this unit. Nevermind that I'll be using it almost totally for my own music. (On the other hand, since I am being forced to pay this extra fee on EACH CD blank, if I do need to copy some Jackson Browne or something to a CD, I ain't a-gonna feel guilty about it... the fees done been paid...)

The "audio" CDs are hard to find here in insert name of where you live....
Terrapin Tapes has them for $6 apiece, if you're willing to mail order. They have a pretty good reputation among the Grateful Dead tape trading community - I think I ordered some blank cassettes from them a couple years back. I do wonder what's going to happen in a couple years, when CD-recorders that don't require the audio CDRs are in everybody's price range, and the audio CDs become really hard to find... but I suspect that Terrapin will continue to carry them as long as they're available just about anywhere...

Update 12/7/98 - email from Nick Verban (thanks!) suggests checking out the TDK website which lists a number of places to mail order CD blanks. In particular, he suggests checking here. (the "Cassette House" at this URL is another place that has a pretty good reputation among tape traders).

What about SCMS copy protection?
Yes, the 765 uses it, and it uses it in a way that's going to annoy people who want to use the 765 as a studio "mixdown" deck. I did a mixdown of some 8-track masters onto my CDRW disc; then I did a digital copy of that disc to a CDR, which would be my "master disc." When I put that CDR into the play side of the 765 and try to do a digital dub of the disc, the machine tells me that I CANNOT copy it digitally; the machine will do "analog" copies, but not a digital dub. So anyone who wants to mix to CDRW, then copy the completed, correct mix to CDR and use the CDR as their master disc to make additional copies is going to be screwed by the SCMS protection scheme on the 765 :-(.

CDR 765 Use Log

I'm trying to keep pretty close tabs on what I do with the unit, what failures occur, etc. etc. - I've noted the names of the CDs I'm mastering/copying just for my own information - in case any of them don't play later on, I can track them back to which copy session they came from...

Date	Media	Type of Use	Problems, Notes, Copy Speed
11/7/98 TDK R A	2x dub, full cd	OK ("PP2" - in SDB archive)
11/7	TDK R A	analog dubs	machine died in middle of recording


11/8	TDK R A	analog mixes	OK ("Blissed Out" headphone premix)
11/13	TDK R A	2x dub, full cd	OK ("ROTS")
11/14	TDK R A	analog mixes	OK ("SOITF Demos I" from cassettes)
11/14	TDK R A	analog mixes	OK ("SOITF Demos II" from cassettes)
11/18	TDK R A	2x dub, full cd	OK ("Big Picture" - copy for WHW )
11/18	TDK R A	2x dub, pgm cd	OK ("Blissed Out" - copy sent to J.T.)

11/25	TDK R A analog mixes	OK ("SA vol. 2" from 4trk)
11/25	TDK R A analog mixes	OK ("SA vol. 3" from 4trk)
11/25	TDK R A analog mixes	OK ("STap" from 4trk)
11/25	TDK R A analog mixes	OK ("ODFE" from 4trk)
11/25	TDK R A analog mixes	OK ("YP demos" from 4trk)
11/25	Phi RWA analog mixes	OK ("misc" from 4trk)

12/4	Phi RWA analog mixes	OK (adding to RWA songs from 11/25)
12/4	TDK R A analog mixes	OK (adding to "YP demos" cd from 11/25)

12/6	TDK R A dub from CDRW	OK (copied my "SA 4" CDRW onto CDR)
12/6	TDK R A digital i/p	OK ("DWY" premixed to DAT, dub to CDR)
12/8	TDK R A	analog dub	OK ("RC" from mix cassette)
12/9	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("GSS" from mix cassette)
12/10	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("DYTIS" from mix cassette)
12/10	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("DUDS" from mix cassette)

12/11	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("GRG1" from mix cassette)
12/11	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("GRG2" from mix cassette)
12/12	TDK R A analog dub	OK ("SA5" from mix cassettes, DAT)

I've set up five CDRs to use to dub original songs from old analog
cassettes and new analog mixes; they'll be used in multiple sessions
until they're filled, which could take months in some cases...  I'll
list them here and will note when they're either successfully
completed, or encounter a failure...

12/31	TDK R A ana dub/mix	("SA6")
12/31	TDK R A ana dub/mix	("PP5")
12/31	TDK R A ana dub/mix	("PP6")
12/31	TDK R A ana dub/mix	("PP7")
12/31	TDK R A ana dub/mix	("DOM")

1/13	KOD R A ana lp dub	OK ("S&OG" cuts)
1/21	KOD R A 2x dub, full cd	OK ("SA1")
1/22	KOD R A 2x dub, full cd	OK ("SA2")

...as noted above, haven't been keeping a close log, but as of 3/10/99,
I've used all but one of my KODAK CDR blanks.  Only problem I've noted
so far is one time, when I was dubbing (2x) a CD, the "record" CD
stopped after track 16, even though the source CD played all the way
through to the end.  I was able to go back and dub tracks 17-21 onto
the blank CD, and as far as I can tell, it's okay - no idea whether
this was a problem with the deck, the source CD (a TDK blank with my
own stuff on it) or the blank CD.

Maintained by: Charles Wolff